Inbox 2.0: Yahoo and Google to Turn E-Mail Into a Social Network

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Ignore Orkut, OpenSocial, Yahoo Mash and Yahoo 360. Google and Yahoo have come up with new and very similar plans to respond to the challenge from MySpace and Facebook: They hope to turn their e-mail systems and personalized home page services (iGoogle and MyYahoo) into social networks.

Web-based e-mail systems already contain much of what Facebook calls the social graph — the connections between people. That’s why the social networks offer to import the e-mail address books of new users to jump-start their list of friends. Yahoo and Google realize that they have this information and can use it to build their own services that connect people to their contacts.

I don’t have a lot of detail from Google, but I’ve heard from several executives that this is their plan. When I talked recently with Joe Kraus, who runs Google’s OpenSocial project, he said: “We believe there are opportunities with iGoogle to make it more social.” And when I pressed him about the relationship between the social aspects of iGoogle and Gmail versus Orkut or some other social network, he said, “It is much easier to extend an existing habit than to create a brand.”

Brad Garlinghouse, who runs the communication and community products for Yahoo, was a lot more forthcoming. He didn’t-have dates or specific product details either. But he did say that Yahoo was working on what he called “Inbox 2.0.”

This has several features. First, the e-mail service is made more personal because it displays messages more prominently from people who are more important to you. Yahoo is testing a method that can automatically determine the strength of your relationship to someone by how often you exchange e-mail and instant messages with him or her.

“The inbox you have today is based on what people send you, not what you want to see,” Mr. Garlinghouse said. “We can say, here are the messages from the people you care about most.

Yahoo Mail will also be extended to display other information about your friends as well. This can be a link to a profile page, and also what Yahoo calls “vitality” –- updated information much like the news feed on Facebook. There could also be simple features that are common on social networks, like displaying a list of friends whose birthdays are coming up.

“The exciting part is that a lot of this information already exists on our network, but it’s dormant,” Mr. Garlinghouse said.

What Yahoo is missing in this vision is a personal profile, where users express their interests and personality to others. Yahoo, of course, has had many different takes on this over the years: its member directory, Geocities, Yahoo 360. It recently started Yahoo Mash. But none of these is quite right, Mr. Garlinghouse said. Mash is simply an experiment, not a product being readied for mass promotion.

There will be some sort of profile system attached to Inbox 2.0, he said. For people who use a lot of Yahoo services, this profile could be quite rich even at the beginning, as it can draw on activity on Yahoo Music, Yahoo Shopping and so on.

“If I get an e-mail from Saul Hansell, I should be able to click on his name and see his profile,” Mr. Garlinghouse said. “The profile page is where you can expose what you want people to know about you.

In this vision, people have two pages: a profile they show to others and a personal page on which they see information from their friends as well as anything else they want, like weather or headlines. That’s different from MySpace, which combines all this into one page.

Already My Yahoo and iGoogle are increasingly collections of widgets that hold content and applications from multiple sources, some of them already social, like e-mail and feeds from social sites like Flickr. But much more is coming.

This approach has a lot of potential and a few pitfalls. To start with, everyone who joins Facebook understands that what they do on the site is about sharing information with friends and sometimes strangers. People who use Yahoo Mail, or just exchange messages with someone using a Yahoo Mail account, have no such expectations. So the company will have to be very careful in how it explains what it is doing and ask for permission in the right places.

“This isn’t a separate product,” Mr. Garlinghouse said. “This is an integration that has to be seamless to the user.”

What’s more, running social networks is like starting nightclubs. You need music and beer, of course, and some hard-to describe magic that draws people to the club. Yahoo and Google are so big that the most they could aspire to would be to create the online equivalent of a crowded bar at a train station, rather than a club for a particular sort of person.

But since Yahoo and Google already have hundreds of millions of people visiting each month, it may well be that they can get a fair number to stop and chat.

Saul Hansell, BITS blog, New York Times

Comments

A good move. Every social networking site now offers private messaging service. Their features are very limited and more importantly, in separated sites.

Net users still depend a lot on their primary mailboxes for the mainstream messages.

Delivering social networking into the mailbox is just so fantastic natural: bring the outer layers into the core.

As for personalized homepages, it is not a big surprise, as with a few content wrapper tweaks, I can make a netvibes page a integrated social networking space now. This is an example:

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    How Vietnamese web service providers can win me back

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    Overall

    Why would I want to use a Vietnamese web service

    1. Connection speed, especially for video streaming
    2. Local opportunities

    What would drive me away

    1. Security, including revelation of my account information and spam
    2. Careless design
    3. Immature communities

    Networking

    Professional Networking

    I’m favoring CyVee because opportunities are real and more closely intact.

    LinkedIn is terrific, but opportunities might come at a lower pace.

    Social Networking

    I’m currently very happy with Facebook.

    If faceViet or yobanbe want to get me, they have to provide

    1. Professional theme
    2. English interface
    3. Strong personalization options.

    Social News

    It’s a pity I prefer utilizing my RSS Reader over social news sites such as Digg. Therefore, no remark just yet.

    However, the news sharing platform of CyVee looks nice and could be very useful in promoting company brand like the way Tim of TRG is doing.

    Additionally, if Vietnamese service provider can create something like StumbleUpon, it would make a hit and I’ll definitely consider.

    Photos Networking

    Picasa has everything I need: 1Gb free account, folders, tagging and an uploader.

    Is there a local site focusing on photos networking?

    Music Networking

    I’m enjoying sharing music on imeem. I am more into English songs. I like new age, hard rock and symphony and I’m not sure whether nhacso, Zing mp3 are rich of such genres.

    Video Networking

    Youtube is absolutely wonderful. I am amazed by its fast connection speed and stability.

    Therefore, I don’t have the plan to move to Clip.vn just yet.

    Mobile Networking

    Has any Vietnamese vendor invest in this area?

    Blogging

    I am maintaining my different blogs on self-hosted WordPress, Yahoo! 360 and Windows Live Spaces.

    If local blogging providers such as ngoisaoblog, blog.com.vn want to attract me, they would have to ensure:

    1. High SEO compatibility
    2. High security, including spam protection and splog tracking
    3. Backup options and standard-compliant import/export functionalities
    4. Permalinks

    Instant Messaging

    My clients in the US are using MSN Messenger. Most of my friends are using Yahoo! Messenger. For conference, Skype is just wonderful.

    I don’t feel the urge of switching to Zing chat.

    Email

    Apart from professional emails on my domain, I use a Gmail account to access Google services and a Yahoo! email to make it easier for my friends.

    Any company is investing in providing free email service in Vietnam?

    Portal

    I use my portal for work purpose and netvibes is still number one.

    Zing looks very nice, but I’d rather having something customizable.

    e-Commerce

    I’m not having a real need of C2C e-Commerce, so no comment on this.

    Map

    A vote for diadiem, simply because I need to find ways in my local areas.

    Entertainment

    I’d rather go out playing sports than wandering online, so good luck socvui, hihihehe and so on

    Conclusion

    In conclusion, the 2 local web services that I utilize are CyVee and diadiem

    CyVee give me real local opportunities and diadiem is definitely more useful than its Google counterpart.

    For others, if they can bring me real values I’m seeking…




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    Webnerations: From Web Service to Web Platform, and how their Business Models evolve

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    We thought Web Service was good. It certainly is!

    Web Service has brought the economy to the web. There is no need to repeat what Amazon, eBay, Yahoo! and Google all have done.

    Windows Live Centralized Point

    Web 2.0 and a different approach

    But another approach is rising fast. Web service providers now make their product a Web Platform.

    They build up a very good core based on solid philosophy. Then they provide API for developers to build applications on.

    Browser

    With their defeat by Microsoft Internet Explorer 5.5, Mozilla temporarily withdrew and launch their next hit: Firefox.

    As in September 2007, market share of Firefox reaches 35.4%, according to W3C.

    One important reason why Firefox has become this popular is due to its extensions gallery. A huge collection of well-done small web services are offered for free by developers worldwide.

    Many of Firefox extensions are done to support other web services such as Google Search, Blogging, del.icio.us, StumbleUpon, digg, Amazon, eBay.

    Gradually, the browser becomes one of the largest centralized points of the web.

    Social Networking

    Talking about Social Networking today, we have to praise Facebook immediately.

    Facebook is also doing very well to provide their API so that applications can be developed on a very good and mature skeleton.

    Most successful Facebook applications support networking purpose such as free gifts, messages, testimonials, collaborative games.

    The goal of a social networking site is to become the home of as many activities of users as possible.

    Content Management Systems

    WordPress, Joomla, phpBB have been building communities around them.

    Themes allow personalization.

    Plugins allow customization.

    Most of all, the platform allow monetization.

    Conclusion: Web Platforms

    Looking at these obvious examples, we see that Firefox, Facebook, WordPress et al offer a very solid and useful core and highly flexible and open API on which applications, extensions, addons, plugins, themes can grow and develop.

    They have become Web Platforms to Web Services.

    These Web Services in turn make the Platforms new and ever-changing.

    Future: Information Depot

    In near future, or maybe now already, we’ll see these central points become Information Depot in Semantic Web.

    When a web seller wants to approach specific market segment, it should know what and how the potential customers are like. How? From Information Nodes such as e-Commerce sites and Social Networking sites. It would go to Amazon to get information on the customers’ buying preferences, and go to Facebook to get information on the customers’ networks and personal interests.

    Can you imagine what happens next? These Information Depots will be able to manipulate the information in whichever way they prefer, not limited to making the information available, for prices.

    Conclusion

    We’re moving from separated glamorous isles to metropolitans on the web.

    You will be able to do many things on a single website. Enjoy the sweetness it brings, while not lowing your guard on diabetes.




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